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Master and Commander
Posts: 1431
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Obama wants to set up a "Health Care Commission" that will make decisions about health care delivery that will exclude the public on how this care is to be distributed and who gets what! Decisions will be made behind closed doors. If you don't like this then call your representatives and demand that all changes proposed to your health care be presented to the public before any changes are made! NTINS!! 
Edited by RCK 2009-07-27 12:52 PM
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Master and Commander
Posts: 1608
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Rck, Before I get aggravated and stirred up enough to call or write anyone can you please provide me a source or a link for this allegation. |
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Master and Commander
Posts: 1431
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Listen to the news on CNN and/or Fox! |
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COMSUBBBS
Posts: 3202
Location: Alexandria, Virginia | Subject: RE: Health Care
What happened to the NO POLITICAL BS intended to cause hate and discontent, division, aggitation, and fear of government on this Board? Did I miss something? Has the policy changed? Is it Dodge City time again? Boy, this post is intended to stir the pot....Folks don't bite....just ignore it. Eventually the Ringmaster of this circus will jerk it and we can get back to our normal cowpie tossing and giving each other the hot foot. DEX |
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Great Sage of the Sea
Posts: 602
Location: Visalia, Ca. | Subject: RE: Health Care
Yes, this could be considered a POLITICAL thread, but it is also a topic of great concern and possible direct effect on all of us. As long as we keep it civil and stick to the facts, we should be okay. 
I am concerned about how fast the President is trying to move this through Congress. Something with such a large impact on the nation's economy and general well-being should not be hurried, but debated openly and thoroughly, so that we truly reach an agreement on the best way to proceed, one that we can all pretty-much support, because whatever becomes law, we will have to live with, at least for a while.
The actual text of the 1017-page(!) House Bill, H.R. 3200, is here:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf
A breakdown of the major points of issue, by an admittedly Conservative analyst, is here:
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2009/07/whats-in-healthacre-bill.html
There is also a Constitutional issue being raised, that the US Constitution does not allow the Federal Government to take control of and/or regulate healthcare as envisioned by the current legislation. Several State Governors, of both parties, are talking about invoking the 10th Amendment to prevent implementation of the Plan if passed and signed in its present form.
http://spectator.org/blog/2009/07/27/obamacare-and-states-rights
These are things that we should all be informed about, and whatever your position on these issues, let our elected Representatives and Senators know how we feel.
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COMSUBBBS
Posts: 2561
Location: Rapid City, SD | Subject: Maybe along these same lines -
Our one and only hospital in Rapid has hired a new breed of doctor. He/she is called a Hospitalist. While a person is in the hospital, they will be attended by this physician, who is an employee of the hospital. I received a letter from my doctor telling me that this will be/is happening. He said that he will 'occassionally' visit his own patients while they are hospitalized, but their care will be managed by the Hospitalist. What ever happened to 'choosing your own doctor?'
Is this the beginning of the downward road?
Cora
Edited by Corabelle 2009-07-27 10:36 PM
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Great Sage of the Sea
Posts: 602
Location: Visalia, Ca. | Subject: RE: Maybe along these same lines -
Many of the hospitals here in Central California are adopting the Hospitalist function.
With so many people having multiple issues while hospitalized, it is easy for information to get lost between caregivers, especially when there are several doctors involved. The Hospitalist serves as an on-site manager - or a co-ordinator, if you prefer. They see all the tests, consult with your doctor and the specialists to make certain that everybody has all the required information, and tries to make sure that you don't get a medicine you are allergic to, or that will react badly with something you are already taking.
They work WITH your doctor, not in place of him.
Edited by Donald L. Johnson 2009-07-28 12:21 AM
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Master and Commander
Posts: 2254
Location: Foothills of the Ozarks | Subject: RE: Maybe along these same lines -
Donald L. Johnson - 2009-07-28 3:19 AM
Many of the hospitals here in Central California are adopting the Hospitalist function.
With so many people having multiple issues while hospitalized, it is easy for information to get lost between caregivers, especially when there are several doctors involved. The Hospitalist serves as an on-site manager - or a co-ordinator, if you prefer. They see all the tests, consult with your doctor and the specialists to make certain that everybody has all the required information, and tries to make sure that you don't get a medicine you are allergic to, or that will react badly with something you are already taking.
They work WITH your doctor, not in place of him.
Isn't that the role of your Primary Care Physician?
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Great Sage of the Sea
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Location: Visalia, Ca. | Subject: RE: Maybe along these same lines -
Doc Gardner - 2009-07-28 2:44 AM
Isn't that the role of your Primary Care Physician?
You would think so, but it doesn't always work out that way.
When my father fell and broke his leg two years ago, his regular doctor was on vacation. The doctor covering him had his own full patient load to deal with, and wasn't fully familiar with Dad's conditions, even with electronic health records.
The Hospitalist/Acute Care Specialist assigned to Dad had fewer patients to deal with, was familiar with the specific issues involved with Dad's conditions, and was (IMHO) better able to manage Dad's care, especially when the cardiac issues emerged during the leg repair surgery. It was certainly easier for me to work with the Hospitalist than with the substitute PCD or all the specialists involved.
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Great Sage of the Sea
Posts: 539
Location: Palm Bay, Florida | Subject: RE: Health Care
A review of all 1017 pages of HR 3200 comes up with just 4 pages where TRICARE is mentioned (pp. 77, 172, 218 and 434). It looks like if TRICARE is your plan, you are exempt from having to change to the new plan |
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Master and Commander
Posts: 1814
Location: Boydton, Virginia | Subject: RE: Maybe along these same lines -
Cora, have you ever spent 3 or 4 hours in the waiting room of your primary care physician? Then he was probably hung up in the hospital. Hospitalists are supposed to help eliviate that situation.
Steamboat sends |
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Master and Commander
Posts: 1608
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In SoCal if you walk into hospital emergency you'll be lucky to spend less than five hours waiting unless it is life threatening. Because of this many seniors I know will call an ambulance rather than drive themselves to Emergency. I don't know if this is the case everywhere else, but Torrance Memorial has been that way for at least five years. A good elderly friend drove himself to the hospital because he was feeling faint. He was released that same day and saw the same people that were there when he came in still waiting for treatment. |
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