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At random: Fleet Admiral Halsey in a book called "The Admirals" when asked "What is the ultimate strategic weapon that is bringing the enemy to its knees? Halsey's reply "If I had to give credit to the instruments and machines that won us the war in the Pacific, I would rank them in this order: SUBMARINES, FIRST; RADAR, SECOND; PLANES, THIRD AND BULLDOZERS FOURTH."
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Ric
Posted 2009-01-11 3:59 PM (#23454)


Plankowner

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Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map.
Subject: Aircraft

MARTIN B-25 MITCHELL WITH 75MM NOSE CANNON



I understand that firing the 75mm gun would bring the plane to a stop in midair. The breech was on the floor between the pilot & co-pilot and was loaded by them. These were planes that were inspired by "Pappy Gunn" who would raid other bases and steal all the 50 caliber MG he could find and strap them to his planes so he could attack Japanese shipping. He could put so much fire power on the target as to overwhelm the defensive gunners and he would then skip bombs into the ships sides. They got to fear him.

http://www.ww2f.com/war-pacific/23875-who-pappy-gunn.html

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,96616,00.html

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,106020,00.html

http://home.st.net.au/~pdunn/ozatwar/pappygunn.htm

Flapper
Posted 2009-01-12 8:19 AM (#23485 - in reply to #23454)


Master and Commander

Posts: 1107

Location: Tucson AZ
Subject: Interesting stuff, Ric.

But then I'm a sucker for personal accounts of WW II figures like Pappy.
steamboat
Posted 2009-01-12 11:51 AM (#23495 - in reply to #23485)
Master and Commander

Posts: 1814

Location: Boydton, Virginia
Subject: RE: Interesting stuff, Ric.

Flapper, are the Army Air Corps vets still there at the Air museum with the B-17? i talked to them for an hour last summer and what a trill> Those 2 guys (forgot thier names) have really BTDT.
Steamboat sends
Jim M.
Posted 2009-01-12 12:03 PM (#23496 - in reply to #23454)


Great Sage of the Sea

Posts: 877

Subject: RE: Aircraft

The British tried the same thing with the de Havilland Mosquito. They took an FB Mk VI fighter-bomber variant, took out the 4 20mm cannon in the bottom of the fuselage and put in 57mm Molins cannon. No. 248 Squadron RAF used them on low-level strikes during the Normandy invasion.

Also, if one wants to read a great novel about Pappy Gunn, get a copy of WHIP, by Martin Caidin.. still in some used bookshops.. the main character is patterned after Pappy Gunn.

Not to be too nitpicky... the B-25 was made by North American. Martin made the B-26 Marauder
docbeeghly
Posted 2009-01-12 1:44 PM (#23498 - in reply to #23454)
Senior Crew

Posts: 184

Location: ConroeTexas
Subject: RE: Aircraft

Anyone want to take a ride in a B-17 or B-25? The Galveston Flight Museum here has one of each that you can book a flight in. (a little too expensive for my pocketbook) I had an uncle, Dale Turner who was an airial gunner on a B-25 during the second world war.
the beagle doc.
Ralph Luther
Posted 2009-01-12 1:58 PM (#23499 - in reply to #23454)
COMSUBBBS

Posts: 6180

Location: Summerville, SC
Subject: RE: Aircraft

Born too late! I would have loved to have flown those WWII aircraft. As Doc says, it's to much $$$$$ to do it now. The last time a B-17 was here in Charleston I think it cost $350 to go up for a quick spin around the pattern.
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