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At random: The USS SKATE (SSN 578) was the first vessel ever to surface at the North Pole, when on March 17, 1959 she surfaced there to conduct memorial services for the renowned Arctic explorer Sir Hubert Wilkins.
USS Fitzgerald Line of Duty Investigation Report.
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mike652
Posted 2017-08-18 4:40 AM (#84719)
Great Sage of the Sea

Posts: 715

Location: Conway, NH
Subject: USS Fitzgerald Line of Duty Investigation Report.

http://www.secnav.navy.mil/foia/readingroom/HotTopics/USS%20Fitzgerald/Supplemental%20Inquiry%20USS%20Fitzgerald.pdf

This is not the report of the Board of Inquiry dealing with the collision; it is about the actions after that collision.
Sewer Pipe Snipe
Posted 2017-08-18 4:53 AM (#84720 - in reply to #84719)
Master and Commander

Posts: 1795

Location: Albany, GA.
Subject: RE: USS Fitzgerald Line of Duty Investigation Report.

Well done to all hands, with a regrettable loss of life.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/17/commanding-officer-navy-warship-in-deadly-collision-relieved-duty.html

And the relieving for cause begins. Even the Command Master Chief.


Edited by Sewer Pipe Snipe 2017-08-18 5:07 AM
mike652
Posted 2017-08-18 8:49 AM (#84721 - in reply to #84719)
Great Sage of the Sea

Posts: 715

Location: Conway, NH
Subject: Determination of Cause?

Here is a press release about the determination of accountability in the collision.
http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=102002
Ric
Posted 2017-08-18 10:29 AM (#84722 - in reply to #84721)


Plankowner

Posts: 9151

Location: Upper lefthand corner of the map.
Subject: RE: Determination of Cause?

A friend of mine, who is still on active duty, had qualified on Darter and left the service. He rejoined the service after 9/11, has just finished 3 years aboard a guided missile frigate. He said it was terrible. No crew cohesion, every man for himself attitude. He said ran the only department, (Damage Control), that worked at getting team work and cooperation as an everyday event. He said he made sure he wore his Dolphins everyday on his uniform just to piss folks off. He is now finishing out his last enlistment as a DCC (SS/SW) on recruiting duty in Michigan and loving every minute of it.
GaryKC
Posted 2017-08-18 10:42 AM (#84723 - in reply to #84719)


COMSUBBBS

Posts: 3660

Location: Kansas City Missouri
Subject: RE: USS Fitzgerald Line of Duty Investigation Report.

Had the commanding officer ever received any training or experiences in leadership, or of maneuvering a vessel so powerful before being put in command?  
mike652
Posted 2017-08-18 11:21 AM (#84724 - in reply to #84723)
Great Sage of the Sea

Posts: 715

Location: Conway, NH
Subject: RE: USS Fitzgerald Line of Duty Investigation Report.

GaryKC - 2017-08-18 1:42 PM

Had the commanding officer ever received any training or experiences in leadership, or of maneuvering a vessel so powerful before being put in command?  

Maybe this will answer your questions:
http://www.public.navy.mil/surfor/ddg62/Pages/bio2-28November2015-11March2017.aspx#.WZcv4OmQzIU
Pedro
Posted 2017-08-18 4:56 PM (#84725 - in reply to #84719)


COMSUBBBS

Posts: 2974

Location: Liverpool, England
Subject: RE: USS Fitzgerald Line of Duty Investigation Report.

Any incident at sea that results in the loss of crew members is tragic and can have a demoralising impact on the remainder of the ships company following the event. The list of those who will carry the can for this is regrettable, leaving their naval careers in tatters. But the list of commendations for the professional and brave actions of Fitzgerald's other crew members is impressive and a great deal of service pride in their performance can be taken from that report. For what it's worth, below is my experience of loss of life on a warship.

As a sixteen year-old straight out of RN training school, I joined HMS Theseus, a carrier, on its way for the invasion of Suez in 1956. It was ironic that this was my first ship and it was to be her very last deployment. Along with another carrier, she conducted the first ever seaborne assault landings of troops by helicopter. Two days into the fight we lost a Whirlwind helicopter landing Royal Marines next to an oil installation that was to be secured, when a nearby storage tank was hit by enemy artillery. The Whirlwind was severely damaged by the blast, with six Marines and three RN aircrew killed instantly. The news of this with the arrival of the air-lifted dead and wounded had a profound effect not only upon me as a wet-behind-the-ears kid, but also upon the whole ships company of some 1,500 sailors and marines. After the initial gloom lifted, furious anger took over with the thirst to avenge our lost brothers-in-arms. A few days later a ceasefire was called, but not before a lot of Egyptians were sent to meet their maker courtesy of the Marines and Paras. By comparison, allied losses were minimal for Operation Musketeer, before it had to be aborted due to international pressures.

Pedro
rover177
Posted 2017-08-18 6:22 PM (#84726 - in reply to #84719)
Master and Commander

Posts: 1576

Location: Wollongong, NSW
Subject: RE: USS Fitzgerald Line of Duty Investigation Report.

I do find it strange - it appears the Exec of eighteen months was moved up to command in May. From 'one of the boys' to Boss is normally not a good thing. A posting to a different ship would perhaps be more appropriate.
The old open bridge destroyer certainly permitted a good lookout to be maintained. I know I regularly stepped out from a closed bridge ship to have a good look around - familiarisation and hello to the lookouts. Never hurt to know what was going on. Passive sonar can also help in station keeping - bearing to the guide and of course the noise from a ship if it gets close, especially if night conditions can make shore lights transpose with another vessel's navigational lights.
Can always remember a quip from the book Make a Signal - a collection of signals sent during and a little after WWII. From the USN Admiral to Royal Navy Admiral when two task groups met at sea - "How's the world's second biggest navy today?" Response - "How's the world's second best?"
Collisions are horrible things but most stem from inattention, rarely equipment failure.
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