Uss Boise
fortyrod
Posted 2026-04-11 3:08 PM (#106032)
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Subject: Uss Boise

https://maritime-executive.com/article/usn-gives-up-on-long-delayed-overhaul-of-sub-uss-boise
Runner485
Posted 2026-04-12 6:10 AM (#106033 - in reply to #106032)


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Subject: RE: Uss Boise

"the budget had ballooned to between $1.6 and $1.9 billion for USS Boise and was likely to continue to rise."

Wow! That's just to do the remaining work, which it will probably go up before completion.
Gil
Posted 2026-04-12 10:22 AM (#106035 - in reply to #106032)
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Subject: RE: Uss Boise

Can anybody explain what losing her drive certification mean?   Is that simply because it been in some stage of overhaul so long?  Wouldn't the contractor be liable?https: //news.usni.org/2026/04/10/navy-to-inactivate-attack-boat-uss-boise-after-1-6b-repair-effort

Edited by Gil 2026-04-12 10:45 AM
Thomas Courtien
Posted 2026-04-13 5:22 AM (#106038 - in reply to #106032)
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Subject: RE: Uss Boise

I do not understand why their "data driven analysis" took so long to figure out the boat was not worth the effort or money.

On my reading I read drive as dive certification; so, that made sense.

Not sure if drive was the word they were going for?

Another SNAFU by multiple groups in government over multiple administrations.

PS: went back an found the original article I read the other day:

Quote: As maintenance was pushed back, the situation worsened. The submarine lost its full operational certification in 2016 and its ability to dive in 2017, effectively sidelining it from combat operations.



Edited by Thomas Courtien 2026-04-13 5:26 AM
Gil
Posted 2026-04-13 11:03 AM (#106039 - in reply to #106032)
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Subject: RE: Uss Boise

Thanks Thomas, I saw dive in another article.

Coyote
Posted 2026-04-13 11:14 AM (#106041 - in reply to #106032)


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Subject: RE: Uss Boise

We held our RAYunion in Norfolk in 2017. We did boat tours, half of us to a Virginia Class, half to the Boise.

Those who toured Boise were dismayed at the condition of the ship. They weren't allowed to operate the reactor. Nobody could qualify since some checkoffs required being at sea. It was just dismal.

Then they prepared it for entry into a yard, but that was halted due to a higher priority ship needing it.

I can't believe how much we gave away in our pursuit of welfare items. In 1963 USS RAY was one of thirteen boats authorized. I rode it down the ways; the next week they laid the keel for another one. And they were doing a carrier at the same time. Boats were being built everywhere.

Even if you opened another building yard today, where would you get the skills needed to construct submarines? Steel arrives as flat plates; who can do the rolling to pressure hull diameter?

Coyote
Don Gentry
Posted 2026-04-15 7:17 PM (#106044 - in reply to #106041)


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Subject: RE: Uss Boise

Coyote... I am a positive person by nature and I've always - as I get older - avoided all the "back in my day..." discussions, but it seems to me genuinely that our country is in a bit of a "reverse industrial age" where young folks are no longer interested in "learning a trade" or "getting their hands dirty and paying the dues necessary to learn a trade."  Working with ones hands seems out of fashion.  Degree's = money while trade school certifications are viewed as something less by many.  The truth is many trades DO pay well but you have to earn that journeyman ticket.  My second oldest grandson (smart as a whip and could have gotten a free ride in college in robotics) chose to learn to be an electrician.  He fast tracked to become a journeyman and he loves the work and is paid well with superb benefits.  He has no feelings of "entitlement" which today is a bit rare.

Sure glad I grew up when I did.  To this day, I love to learn from smarter, more experienced folks.... that won't ever change.   <end of sermon >

Gil
Posted 2026-04-16 9:04 AM (#106045 - in reply to #106032)
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Subject: RE: Uss Boise

Interesting Don, I assumed just by my interaction with my plumber, auto mechanic, and handyman (I can't repair crap) that it was obvious it was going the other way. Even my cleaning lady just came back from a vacation in Spain.
Coyote
Posted 2026-04-16 2:37 PM (#106047 - in reply to #106044)


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Subject: RE: Uss Boise

Don Gentry - 2026-04-15 9:17 PM

Coyote... I am a positive person by nature and I've always - as I get older - avoided all the "back in my day..." discussions, but it seems to me genuinely that our country is in a bit of a "reverse industrial age" where young folks are no longer interested in "learning a trade" or "getting their hands dirty and paying the dues necessary to learn a trade." 

I'm starting to feel a return to two things: 1) college education leading to a usable skill set, & 2) tradesman education. The local university and community college and a businessman's association are all in it. I hope they keep it up and even broaden it. My oldest grandson is in high school but part time he makes fancy sandwiches in a upscale bistro. Before that he was involved in a welding class and thinks he might like that (I told him to keep away from underwater welding - big bucks but dangerous).

Coyote